Hillam Historians, Guest Book
From: Editor July 25 2010 keeping guest book live  From: Paul (paulscholey2@btinternet.com) May 2 2010 Hi Barbara, A firm called S&N Genealogy Supplies has, or had, for sale a CD of Monk Fryston parish records covering the years 1578 - 1678. I have had a look at my copy, which are transcripts, and I can't see a record for the bp. of a William Shippen c1600. There is one for a Richard s/o William c1603. Altogether there seem to be about 50 records for Shippen during those years. Paul From: Barbara April 25 2010 So nice to see this website. My ancestor William Shippen was born in Hillam around 1600. His children were baptised in the Parish Church at nearby Methley. He owned land in Methley and the house is still there. Edward (baptised March 5, 1639) became the first mayor of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. William must have been baptised at the church in Monk Fryston, but I have no record of it...have told there is none. From: Dick Williams (rkwilli1@tiscali.co.uk) March 14 2010 Just found the story of your renovated pump -congrats! I hold the National Register of Village Pumps, and also run a website dedicated to the topic - see www.villagepumps.org.uk. May I use the pump photo on your website to illustrate my entry for Hillam? Most grateful if you can agree. Regards, Dick Williams in Cheltenham From: Michelle Roebuck (castlefordlass1972@hotmail.com) February 23 2010 I have not lived in Hillam for about 33 years! I spent the first four years of my life at 3 Rose Lea with my mum and dad,(Sue and Dick Roebuck) and my grandad (Douglas Hymes) I last came to the village in 2006 and I still love it! It will always be my home! From: ROSIE jACQUIER (roseylyn@adam.com.au) December 31 2009 looking to start tracing family of Robert hillam caltowie South Australia I am his great grand daughter Daughter of Brian hillam Grandfather Clarence Bevis and his brother was Robert Maxwell Hillam From: Paul Scholey (paulscholey2@btinternet.com) August 8 2009 Hi Jane, I can't help you with John & William after 1841 but I do have Robert on a Hillam tree I have compiled. He was a stone mason, married Elizabeth Long at Monk Fryston in 1854 and up to 1881 they had had 10 children. I can't find them after 1881. As to the crops, can't really help with that, Hillam is grade 2 agricultural land and is capable of growing anything. They were at Maspin Grange in 1841, some heavy land down there but gets lighter towards Gateforth. Paul Paul From: Jane Hirst (j.e.hirst@leeds.ac.uk) August 6 2009 Hi, my g.g.g.g.grandparents John Hurst (b.1805) and Ann Haley (b1807)were from Hillam. I am trying to find out what happened to John and his two sons William (b1829)and Robert (b1831). Ann died in 1845 and there is no mention of the men after the 1851 census. The men were described as agricultural labourers - would anyone know the type of crop(s) they would be dealing with at the time? Can anyone help, much appreciated. From: Paul Scholey (paulscholey2@btinternet.com) May 9 2009 Re Paul, Crossland family: The William Crossland you have found on the 1851 census was born at Fairburn c1823. On a tree of Hillam families I have compiled I have a George Crossland, also born at Fairburn c1853. His mother was Susanna, with whom he is living in 1861 at Fairburn. I don't know who his father was, but it must be likely that he is related to your William. George married an Elizabeth Bucke at Monk Fryston in 1877. The William on the 1851 census married Sarah Sweeting at Monk Fryston in 1846. They have eight children baptised there between 1849 and 1866, but not the eldest son, George, who appears on the census in 1851. Hope this helps a bit. Paul From: paul douglas (englander8@netzero.com) May 8 2009 Am interested in any information about the Crossland family living in Monk Frystone in the mid 1800's. The 1851 census shows them on the same page as some residents of Monk Frystone Hall and I am wondering if he lived or worked on that property.Any info or news of descendants would be great. From: Laura Jeacock (laurafromcas@aol.com) January 19 2009 Hello, I was wondering if anyone knew any of the Antrobus's or Jeacock's. As the Grand-daughter of Patricia Ann Antrobus and Richard William Jeacock,i would love for any of their old friends or family friends anything like that could get in touch with me. From: sylvia cook (trevcook@skynet.be) October 1 2008 Hi took a peep at your village site,it cropped up in my family research,along with the surrounding area's Biscomb the name,working back in the early 1600's From: Paul Scholey (paulscholey2@btinternet.com) June 30 2008 Dick, According to our pump restorer, who had wide experience of traction engines in his youth, the engines were usually filled from a trough under the pump via a suction tube. He says that the engines usual water capacity was between 120 and 150 gallons and between 8 and 10 hundredweights of coal. If they were travelling on the road they would need refilling every 10 miles or so. When working in the farmyard they would be continually replenished by someone using a drum or else from a nearby dyke. Our own experience of drawing water from our own restored pump is that 5 gallons could be easily drawn every 2 or 3 minutes, given sufficient arm power! Paul From: Dick Williams (rkwilli@lineone.net) June 28 2008 Belated congrats on the restoration of your village pump. In your report on Pump Day 2007, it's written that ''The village pump was the main water source for these thirsty machines'' - i.e., traction engines. Could you please tell me the source of this information, as others have suggested that village pumps delivered water far too slowly for them to be used to fill a traction engine's vast water tanks. I'd very much like to clarify, as I'm the author of www.villagepumps.org.uk, and this is an area of doubt which I need to sort out. Thanks! From: Paul Scholey (paulscholey2@btinternet.com) February 11 2008 Hi Annice, Thank you for those dates, I shall add them to the Bedford tree. If you have some genealogy software I could send you a gedcom of it, then you could find all the mistakes! As it's not my family I haven't bought any certificates or done any checking in archives, it is all done in front of the computer. Paul From: Annice Dennis-Pendrel (anniced@shaw.ca) February 9 2008 Hi Paul, You have sent me some information before. It is nice to connect with you again. Jenkinson and Lucy did indeed have two daughters. Ann Elizabeth was born 4 December 1889 and Alice 30 January 1892. They also had five sons. Annie and Alice came at separate times to Canada with Henry. My grandmother came in 1910 and Annie came with her brother, Herris, in 1911 with Henry. Herris returned to Yorkshire to marry and eventually died in Etaples in WWI. Henry did marry Mary Jane Bell and they had three sons. However, only two came to Canada. The youngest stayed in England. The Canadian 1901 and 1911 census stated that Henry immigrated in 1883. The 1906 census for Western Canada says 1882. Although I have gone through many microfilms of ships arriving in Canada, I have been unable to find any of them. My grandmother, Alice, always said that one of Henry's wives returned to England. I believe it must have been Mary Jane. I can find her in 1881 living with her sister Eliza Braithwaite. I believe Mary Jane died before 1891. In the 1891 and 1901 census her son James Bell Bedford was living with another sister of Mary Jane, Annie Bell. The family said that Henry returned several times to Yorkshire. I have not yet found Mary Jane's death. I am about ready to order one from 1887. There is a slight problem with this as we believe Henry remarried in Canada in 1886 and had another son in 1888. As I haven't found this marriage either, the date may be incorrect. My cousin, Wilf Bedford, gave me a copy of his Bedford research. I have worked on this for years. I would be happy to assist with the tree. Annice From: Paul Scholey (paulscholey2@btinternet.com) February 9 2008 Hello Annice, Although the Bedfords are not in my tree, we receive so many queries about them that I tried to compile a tree. I have Jenkinson having two daughters, Ann Elizabeth & Alice, 1889 & 1891. I have their uncle Henry marrying a Mary Jane Bell and having 3 sons. Henry was a railway engine driver but the family seems to disappear after the 81 census. Was that when they went to Canada? Paul From: Annice Dennis-Pendrel (anniced@shaw.ca) February 8 2008 I am also researching family from Hillam. My grandmother was the daughter of Jenkinson Bedford and Lucy Herris. She came to Canada with Jenkinson's brother, Henry Bedford. I also have connections through marriage to the Gill, Makin, Clarkson, and Downes families. I have many photos saved by my grandmother and have been able to identify many of them. It would be good to hear from others researching these families. From: Devin Hillam (fubecando@gmail.com) September 20 2007 Hello everyone! Hillam seems like a great village. My wife and I plan on visiting one day soon(We're from America). I am wondering if anyone knows how the town got its name. If anyone knows, please let me know. From: ian cox (iancox@btinternet.com) June 18 2007 just look at your site and then look at my g grandmothers census details to find i have a link to hillam,beal,fryston but on average hillam wins all i know is that her first name is mary and she married a william cox round or about 1861 From: Adele (athertonrichards@aol.com) June 13 2007 Hi Neil, I have quite a bit info on the Milthorps, if you would like to get in touch. From: maurice gibson (m.gibson9117@ntlworld.com) June 5 2007 My mum,s side is bedfords(nee Briggs)She was born at Pontefract(tanshelf)I am searching for any info on her mum Beatrice Briggs (Pontfract workhouse)around 1900 She would have lost her dad around that time My g/grandfather jonathan of halifax is hard to pin down between 1861and 1871. From: neil arnott (neil.arnott@gmail.com) June 3 2007 I am descended from Joseph Milthorp who was born in Hillam. He moved to Briestfield, Dewsbury where my great-grandfather was born - Arthur Milthorp - a miner. From: Bob Nedham (BobNeedham@bigpond.com.au) April 7 2007 Hallo Hillam Historians. I was directed to this site by a bloke called Denis Dixon, in the first place regarding the Baker family from South Milford. I realise that this site is more concerned with Hillam but I note some surnames in the guest book which also appear in my family tree. My relationship with the Bakers in the area can be traced back to a William Baker born in Sherburn or South Milford in 1731. He was my Great, great, great, great, great, Grandfather. He married a girl called Elizabeth Middleton. They had a son called George in 1754. George married an Anne Keyworth in 1784. They in turn also had a son in called George and he was definatly born in South Milford in 1793. He was a railway clerk living in Dringhouses in 1841 when the Great North Western railway came through Acomb. Later he was a stock broker. This George married an Ellen Severs from York in 1818. Their daughter, Fanny, was born in Studley or York in 1824 and she married an Alfred George Scholey in 1847. At this point my connection with the Bakers ends. My Scholey line goes back to John Scholey (circa 1735) who was said to be the publican of the ''Cock and Bottle Inn'' at Sandal Magna. Anyway I am just casting some bread on the water and would love to hear from anyone with further info on these names. Needless to say you would be most welcome to anything that I have in this conection. Bob Needham from sunny New South Wales, Australia. From: Paul (paulscholey2@btinternet.com) February 24 2007 Hello Suzi, Yes please, I would like a copy, just in case we have any other queries about this Hillam family. Paul From: Susi Waring (susipaul@emirates.net.ae) February 18 2007 Dear Paul, I can't remember if I had a copy of the front pages of the Herris Family Bible last time we spoke which gives details of the births and deaths within the family from 1822 to 1915. If you would like a copy plus transcript I would be more than happy to forward to you or anyone who has an interest in the family name. From: Paul (paulscholey2@btinternet.com) January 20 2007 Hello Neal Herris was a surname that was used as a Christian name by Jenkinson Bedford at Hillam c1886. Jenkinson had married Lucy Herris in 1884. She was the daughter of Robert & Elizabeth Herris of Beal, she was bc1856 at Beal. Robert was the s/o William, bc1795, & Ann Herris of Beal, although one census says that Ann was born at Stanley, and she was given as Hannah in 1841. The Herris family were the village butchers in Beal at the time. Jenkinson called his next son Gibson Bedford, his father Thomas having married Ann Gibson at All Saints’ Church, Sherburn in Elmet on January 18, 1844. Paul From: neal herris wright (neal@penz.eclipse.co.uk) January 18 2007 Hi, My middle name is Herris which is apparently an old surname given to the first male child in my family. Can you tell me anything about the name Herris? Thanks Neal From: Patricia Ann Holmes (patricia.holmes4@tesco.net) January 8 2007 Having just been reading the history of Monk Fryston Hall, I am moved to write and say that my great grandfather named Hudson was a carpenter on the estate. My nana would tell me tales of taking her dad's lunch to him, from their cottage on the estate, and being confronted by a llama. She would say no matter which path she took, it was always waiting for her. This was in the days of the private zoo. My Nana's name was Emma Maria Hudson, and she married James Arthur Lewis in 1919/1920, I believe. His two maiden sisters, Edith (who was a district nurs) and Gertrude Lewis (who was a school teacher in the village school) lived at a bungalow called Braeside for as long as I can remember until Gertie died, when the upkeep became too much for Edie on her own. My grandparents lived at School View cottages, my uncle Brian was born in number 3. Aunt Edie moved from Braeside to No. 4 School View, and subsequently bought No. 3 for Nana and Grandad to live in. When Edie died, No 3 was sold and they moved in to No 4. They subsequently moved back to York to be nearer their family. I have many happy memories of Monk Fryston and Hillam as a child. Remember playing with Susan Antrobus, and other kids. What a blast from the past! If any one out there remembers my great aunts, or my grandparents,or even my dad James Kenneth, known as Ken, his sister Betty and brother Brian, I would love to hear from you. Ann From: Paul Scholey (paulscholey2@btinternet.com) November 20 2006 Adele, Hillam was heaving with Bedfords in the mid 1800s so we need more info if you want some help. As for the Milthorps, in 1841 William, 35, ag. lab. was living with Hannah, 40 and children, Richard, 5, Joseph, 3 and Sarah, 11m. In 1851 William was widowed, living with daughter Sarah. Joseph was in Hillam living with Thomas & Ann Bedford as an ag. lab. Richard was at Ledston, near Castleford as a farm servant. There were two other Bedford families on the same page as Thomas & Ann in 1851. The 1851 census says that Richard was born at Frystone, probably Monk Fryston, but could be Ferry Fryston I suppose. Paul From: adele richards (athertonrichards@aol.com) November 15 2006 I've just come across this wonderful website. Looking for any info on the Bedford's-born in Hillam. Also the Milthorp family,who moved from Darrington to Hillam before Richard Milthorp was born in 1835. From: Erika Eddington (theindubitable@hotmail.com) September 9 2006 I'm friends with hannah HILLAM, therefore I consider myself pretty darn cool...the village is cool too. From: Paul Scholey (paulscholey2@btinternet.com) August 21 2006 Clare, if you contact Suzi, who posted the previous message, you will find that your William Gill married one of her Herris family. She has a family tree containing your William Gill. In 1871 William and his sister, Ann, were living with their parents, Richard and Mary, at Huddleston cum Lumby. Richard was an agricultural labourer. In 1861 there was no Ann but the rest of the family were at Hillam. Richard was born at Thorganby, N.E. of Selby c1834. Mary was born at Follifoot, near Harrogate c1835. In 1851 there is a Richard Gill in Hillam with approximately the right age, but is says that he was born in Hillam, which is probably a mistake. In 1841 there is a Richard Gill, at Hillam, s/o a Robert and Alice Gill, farmer. However as the 1841 census does not give places of birth it may or may not be the same person. According to the I.G.I. a Robert Gill married an Alice Shaw at Thorganby on December 2nd, 1828. Returning to the 1851 census shows that Robert Gill was born at Thorganby c1797 and Alice at Wheldrake c1798, they were at Hillam with children, John, Kezia, and Ana (Anna or Hannah perhaps) I couldn’t find Robert’s baptism on the I.G.I. but an Alice Shaw was baptised at Wheldrake on April 8, 1798. From: Clare Horner (gibson-clare@lycos.co.uk) August 13 2006 I am researching my family history and have found that Richard Wells Gill my great grandfather (born 1888) was from Hillam, and his father William Gill(born 1859) also moved there from Monk Fryston. They were both Farmers in Hillam. It would be great to hear from anyone who has any information on the Gill Family from Hillam. From: Susi Waring (susipaul@emirates.net.ae) June 22 2006 Thanksyou, what a wonderful website. This lead to finding ancestors who attended the Beal School in the 1880s. If anyone is searching the family name Herris or Makin, please get in touch. Also the name Bedford, by marriage. From: averil thornton (averil.thornton@btconnect.com) February 19 2006 Am trying to trace Storr family George and Mary Storr who lived at Common Farm Hillam Common 1930 to 1966 with daughter Norah. From: barry draper (barrdraper@aol.com) February 7 2006 when I was a young boy liveing in pontefract,my dad uas to take my brothers and I to hillham and to the pond fishing,lovely golden memories of hillam,now I live in waltham abbey essex,please to find your website barry From: David Fennell (lillikala@yahoo.com.au) February 3 2006 We were from Munk Fryston. Thomas Fennell was born 1848. From: David Fennell (dfennell@iprimus.com.au) February 2 2006 I am also tracing my family from the village - Thomas Fennell born 1848. From: Hannah Hillam (thevirulent@gmail.com) September 12 2005 I've known about Hillam Village for a while now, but this is the first time I've come to the website. My surname is Hillam, which I think is pretty neat. I live in America and someday I hope to visit Hillam. From: Barbara Nelson (bnys14880@blueyonder.co.uk) August 6 2005 My great Grandmother was Jane Terry nee Bedford,born 1st January 1844 at Hillam. Her Parents were John Bedford and Mary Bedford nee Shaw. Jane married Richard Terry 10/09/1870. I would like to hear from anyone who has any information on the Bedford family. What a great site this is. All the best to you all. From: Graham Bramham (gbramham@dodo.com.au) August 4 2005 I hope a Robert Bramham sees this note. I have been searching my family tree in England and Australia,I have found to date about 530 Bramhams and their families going back to abt1790. Robrt Bramham c:1790,son Benjamin c:1820,son Robert b:1842 married Leila Nichols, children--Walter, Leila, Blanche, Ernest, Robert my g/father, Annie E no info, Willie H no info, Mary A no info. If someone could help with information on these family members I would be eternal grateful. Hopeful of a reply Thanks Graham...... |
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